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One slight problem, theres anecdotal evidence supporting a night time search penalty to scavenging making results time dependant. Also the game engine is entirely the same as the french version the only differences are translation and whether certain items and buildings are available. And the french version DOES have night time penalties. [[User:Discordance|Discordance]] 17:44, 27 September 2011 (PDT)
 
One slight problem, theres anecdotal evidence supporting a night time search penalty to scavenging making results time dependant. Also the game engine is entirely the same as the french version the only differences are translation and whether certain items and buildings are available. And the french version DOES have night time penalties. [[User:Discordance|Discordance]] 17:44, 27 September 2011 (PDT)
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*Thanks for the note, might worth looking into, a complication at cost of 4 more tables. I don't expect anybody to bother too much logging that, anyway. Found most of the items at night last time contrary to almost empty auto-search session during the day, so I guess I still need to notice. Any clue on exact time boundaries? Or is it determined by just lighting and colouration dimmed seen in the map window, figures? I'll keep them separated for now until it's clear about the penalty. It also makes auto-search results unreliable to account now. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 00:29, 28 September 2011 (PDT)
  
  
 
=Search Results=
 
=Search Results=
  
It was never brought up, but it shouldn't hurt to get some data and see average chances of a successful find during searching and auto-searching. You can track auto-search results in your zone by accounting empty searches and items yielded in the rucksack/on the ground, although the process can be disturbed by other players, and a zone can deplete earlier than you're back to recount. Be also careful not to count items which were already there. '''If you're not sure, better skip that part and log only manual searches'''.
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It was never brought up, but it shouldn't hurt to get some data and see average chances of a successful find during searching. '''Until it's clear about night time scavenging penalty, log only manual searches, auto-searches will have to wait'''.
  
 
Results of searches in {{MetaInline|Depleted Zones}} can be found at the corresponding talk page. '''Log here results of searches in non-depleted/replenished zones only'''.
 
Results of searches in {{MetaInline|Depleted Zones}} can be found at the corresponding talk page. '''Log here results of searches in non-depleted/replenished zones only'''.
  
==Scavengers==
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==Scavengers (day)==
  
{{MetaInline|Scavenger}}s are less likely to fail a search, thus should be separated from the rest.
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{{MetaInline|Scavenger}}s are less likely to fail a search, thus should be separated from the rest. Factors:
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*Basic search stats (non-[[Depleted_Zones|depleted zones]])
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*[[Scavenger]]s' search bonus
  
 
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==Non-Scavengers==
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==Non-Scavengers (day)==
  
Anybody else than scavengers are supposed to have lowest find chances, might give a clue how scavengers' bonus is good.
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Anybody else than scavengers are supposed to have lowest find chances, might give a clue how scavengers' bonus is good. Factors:
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*Basic search stats (non-[[Depleted_Zones|depleted zones]])
  
 
{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="1" style="width: 50%;  font-size: 90%; margin-left: 1.5em"
 
{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="1" style="width: 50%;  font-size: 90%; margin-left: 1.5em"
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| scope="col" |'''Recorded by (signature)'''
 
| scope="col" |'''Recorded by (signature)'''
 
|-
 
|-
|align="center" | 21 || align="center" | 7 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:38, 27 September 2011 (PDT)
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|align="center" | <...> || align="center" | <...> || <...>
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|-
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|align="center" | '''<...>''' || align="center" | '''<...>''' || '''TOTAL'''
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|}
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==Scavengers with Learned Camper status (day)==
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To see how {{MetaInline|Learned Camper}} impacts scavengers with their search bonus. Factors:
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*Basic search stats (non-[[Depleted_Zones|depleted zones]])
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*[[Scavenger]]s' search bonus
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*[[Learned Camper]] search bonus
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{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="1" style="width: 50%;  font-size: 90%; margin-left: 1.5em"
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| scope="col" width="70mm" align="center" |'''Searches'''
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| scope="col" width="80mm" align="center" |'''Items found'''
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| scope="col" |'''Recorded by (signature)'''
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|-
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|align="center" | <...> || align="center" | <...> || <...>
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|-
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|align="center" | '''<...>''' || align="center" | '''<...>''' || '''TOTAL'''
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|}
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==Non-Scavengers with Learned Camper status (day)==
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To see how {{MetaInline|Learned Camper}} impacts non-scavengers. Factors:
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*Basic search stats (non-[[Depleted_Zones|depleted zones]])
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*[[Learned Camper]] search bonus
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{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="1" style="width: 50%;  font-size: 90%; margin-left: 1.5em"
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| scope="col" width="70mm" align="center" |'''Searches'''
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| scope="col" width="80mm" align="center" |'''Items found'''
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| scope="col" |'''Recorded by (signature)'''
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|-
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|align="center" | <...> || align="center" | <...> || <...>
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|-
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|align="center" | '''<...>''' || align="center" | '''<...>''' || '''TOTAL'''
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|}
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==Scavengers (night)==
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Factors:
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*Basic search stats (non-[[Depleted_Zones|depleted zones]])
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*[[Scavenger]]s' search bonus
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*Night time search penalty (needs proof)
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{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="1" style="width: 50%;  font-size: 90%; margin-left: 1.5em"
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| scope="col" width="70mm" align="center" |'''Searches'''
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| scope="col" width="80mm" align="center"|'''Items found'''
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| scope="col" |'''Recorded by (signature)'''
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|-
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|align="center" | <...> || align="center" | <...> || <...>
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|-
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|align="center" | '''<...>''' || align="center" | '''<...>''' || '''TOTAL'''
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|}
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==Non-Scavengers (night)==
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 +
Factors:
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*Basic search stats (non-[[Depleted_Zones|depleted zones]])
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*Night time search penalty (needs proof)
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 +
{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="1" style="width: 50%;  font-size: 90%; margin-left: 1.5em"
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| scope="col" width="70mm" align="center" |'''Searches'''
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| scope="col" width="80mm" align="center" |'''Items found'''
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| scope="col" |'''Recorded by (signature)'''
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|-
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|align="center" | 12 || align="center" | 6 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:38, 27 September 2011 (PDT)
 
|-
 
|-
|align="center" | 10 || align="center" | 6 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:38, 27 September 2011 (PDT)
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|align="center" | 8 || align="center" | 4 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:38, 27 September 2011 (PDT)
 
|-
 
|-
|align="center" | '''31''' || align="center" | '''13''' || '''TOTAL'''
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|align="center" | '''20''' || align="center" | '''10''' || '''TOTAL'''
 
|}
 
|}
  
==Scavengers with Learned Camper status==
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==Scavengers with Learned Camper status (night)==
  
To see how {{MetaInline|Learned Camper}} impacts scavengers with their search bonus.
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Factors:
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*Basic search stats (non-[[Depleted_Zones|depleted zones]])
 +
*[[Scavenger]]s' search bonus
 +
*[[Learned Camper]] search bonus
 +
*Night time search penalty (needs proof)
  
 
{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="1" style="width: 50%;  font-size: 90%; margin-left: 1.5em"
 
{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="1" style="width: 50%;  font-size: 90%; margin-left: 1.5em"
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|}
 
|}
  
==Non-Scavengers with Learned Camper status==
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==Non-Scavengers with Learned Camper status (night)==
  
To see how {{MetaInline|Learned Camper}} impacts non-scavengers.
+
Factors:
 +
*Basic search stats (non-[[Depleted_Zones|depleted zones]])
 +
*[[Learned Camper]] search bonus
 +
*Night time search penalty (needs proof)
  
 
{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="1" style="width: 50%;  font-size: 90%; margin-left: 1.5em"
 
{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="1" style="width: 50%;  font-size: 90%; margin-left: 1.5em"

Revision as of 07:29, 28 September 2011

One slight problem, theres anecdotal evidence supporting a night time search penalty to scavenging making results time dependant. Also the game engine is entirely the same as the french version the only differences are translation and whether certain items and buildings are available. And the french version DOES have night time penalties. Discordance 17:44, 27 September 2011 (PDT)

  • Thanks for the note, might worth looking into, a complication at cost of 4 more tables. I don't expect anybody to bother too much logging that, anyway. Found most of the items at night last time contrary to almost empty auto-search session during the day, so I guess I still need to notice. Any clue on exact time boundaries? Or is it determined by just lighting and colouration dimmed seen in the map window, figures? I'll keep them separated for now until it's clear about the penalty. It also makes auto-search results unreliable to account now. --KlarkMorrigan 00:29, 28 September 2011 (PDT)


Search Results

It was never brought up, but it shouldn't hurt to get some data and see average chances of a successful find during searching. Until it's clear about night time scavenging penalty, log only manual searches, auto-searches will have to wait.

Results of searches in Small broken.gifSmall broken.gifDepleted Zones Depleted Zones can be found at the corresponding talk page. Log here results of searches in non-depleted/replenished zones only.

Scavengers (day)

Item pelle.gifItem pelle.gifScavenger Scavengers are less likely to fail a search, thus should be separated from the rest. Factors:

Searches Items found Recorded by (signature)
<...> <...> <...>
<...> <...> TOTAL

Non-Scavengers (day)

Anybody else than scavengers are supposed to have lowest find chances, might give a clue how scavengers' bonus is good. Factors:

Searches Items found Recorded by (signature)
<...> <...> <...>
<...> <...> TOTAL

Scavengers with Learned Camper status (day)

To see how Small camp.gifSmall camp.gifLearned Camper Learned Camper impacts scavengers with their search bonus. Factors:

Searches Items found Recorded by (signature)
<...> <...> <...>
<...> <...> TOTAL

Non-Scavengers with Learned Camper status (day)

To see how Small camp.gifSmall camp.gifLearned Camper Learned Camper impacts non-scavengers. Factors:

Searches Items found Recorded by (signature)
<...> <...> <...>
<...> <...> TOTAL

Scavengers (night)

Factors:

Searches Items found Recorded by (signature)
<...> <...> <...>
<...> <...> TOTAL

Non-Scavengers (night)

Factors:

  • Basic search stats (non-depleted zones)
  • Night time search penalty (needs proof)
Searches Items found Recorded by (signature)
12 6 --KlarkMorrigan 14:38, 27 September 2011 (PDT)
8 4 --KlarkMorrigan 15:38, 27 September 2011 (PDT)
20 10 TOTAL

Scavengers with Learned Camper status (night)

Factors:

Searches Items found Recorded by (signature)
<...> <...> <...>
<...> <...> TOTAL

Non-Scavengers with Learned Camper status (night)

Factors:

Searches Items found Recorded by (signature)
<...> <...> <...>
<...> <...> TOTAL