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(Removing the testing tables, which aren't being used. The rates are currently being tracked on a spreadsheet.)
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I have moved the results to a [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?pli=1&key=0AvFS8t6RahpVdEtDcVZXQ2JGSXNCclZ4TXhwOU9oQUE&hl=en_US#gid=1 spreadsheet] with a few other projects for convenience. Would be hard to track all those on the wiki. I've merged day and night results as we don't have the night time penalty, apparently. Didn't include drunk condition yet: I can't see it being tested any time soon. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 05:21, 3 February 2012 (PST)
 
I have moved the results to a [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?pli=1&key=0AvFS8t6RahpVdEtDcVZXQ2JGSXNCclZ4TXhwOU9oQUE&hl=en_US#gid=1 spreadsheet] with a few other projects for convenience. Would be hard to track all those on the wiki. I've merged day and night results as we don't have the night time penalty, apparently. Didn't include drunk condition yet: I can't see it being tested any time soon. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 05:21, 3 February 2012 (PST)
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= Search Results =
 
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It was never brought up, but it shouldn't hurt to get some data and see average chances of a successful find during searching. '''Until it's clear about night time scavenging penalty, log manual searches and auto-searches spanning for the current day time at the moment of recording'''.
 
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Results of searches in {{MetaInline|Depleted Zones}} can be found at the corresponding talk page. '''Log here results of searches in non-depleted/replenished zones only'''.
 
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== Scavengers (day) ==
 
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{{MetaInline|Scavenger}}s are less likely to fail a search, thus should be separated from the rest. Factors:
 
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*Basic search stats (non-[[Depleted_Zones|depleted zones]])
 
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*[[Scavenger]]s' search bonus
 
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{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="1" style="width: 50%;  font-size: 90%; margin-left: 1.5em"
 
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| scope="col" width="70mm" align="center" |'''Searches'''
 
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| scope="col" width="80mm" align="center"|'''Items found'''
 
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| scope="col" |'''Recorded by (signature)'''
 
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|align="center" | 7 || align="center" | 7 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:08, 16 October 2011 (PDT)
 
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|align="center" | 9 || align="center" | 7 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:58, 17 October 2011 (PDT)
 
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|align="center" | 4 || align="center" | 2 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:36, 7 December 2011 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | 7 || align="center" | 6 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 07:07, 9 December 2011 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | 15 || align="center" | 13 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 23:36, 22 December 2011 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | 20 || align="center" | 14 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 16:30, 26 December 2011 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | 9 || align="center" | 7 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:01, 28 December 2011 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | 19 || align="center" | 12 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:16, 31 December 2011 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | 36 || align="center" | 31 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 04:40, 3 February 2012 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | '''140''' || align="center" | '''110''' || '''TOTAL'''
 
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78.6% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 04:40, 3 February 2012 (PST)
 
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== Non-Scavengers (day) ==
 
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Anybody else than scavengers are supposed to have lowest find chances, might give a clue how scavengers' bonus is good. Factors:
 
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*Basic search stats (non-[[Depleted_Zones|depleted zones]])
 
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{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="1" style="width: 50%;  font-size: 90%; margin-left: 1.5em"
 
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| scope="col" width="70mm" align="center" |'''Searches'''
 
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| scope="col" width="80mm" align="center" |'''Items found'''
 
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| scope="col" |'''Recorded by (signature)'''
 
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|align="center" | 5 || align="center" | 4 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:08, 29 September 2011 (PDT)
 
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|align="center" | 5 || align="center" | 4 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 13:39, 30 September 2011 (PDT)
 
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|align="center" | 7 || align="center" | 6 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 13:07, 1 October 2011 (PDT)
 
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|align="center" | 4 || align="center" | 1 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:05, 2 October 2011 (PDT)
 
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|align="center" | 3 || align="center" | 2 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:08, 4 October 2011 (PDT)
 
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|align="center" | 6 || align="center" | 3 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:29, 7 October 2011 (PDT)
 
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|align="center" | 5 || align="center" | 5 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 03:20, 18 November 2011 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | 7 || align="center" | 4 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:14, 18 November 2011 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | 6 || align="center" | 4 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 22:33, 20 November 2011 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | 7 || align="center" | 5 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:15, 22 November 2011 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | 6 || align="center" | 4 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:18, 25 November 2011 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | 6 || align="center" | 3 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:14, 29 November 2011 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | 1 || align="center" | 0 || --[[User:Julia|Julia]] 07:12, 7 December 2011 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | 30 || align="center" | 18 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:33, 17 January 2012 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | '''98''' || align="center" | '''63''' || '''TOTAL'''
 
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64.3% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:33, 17 January 2012 (PST)
 
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== Scavengers with Learned Camper status (day) ==
 
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To see how {{MetaInline|Learned Camper}} impacts scavengers with their search bonus. Factors:
 
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*Basic search stats (non-[[Depleted_Zones|depleted zones]])
 
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*[[Scavenger]]s' search bonus
 
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*[[Learned Camper]] search bonus
 
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{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="1" style="width: 50%;  font-size: 90%; margin-left: 1.5em"
 
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| scope="col" width="70mm" align="center" |'''Searches'''
 
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| scope="col" width="80mm" align="center" |'''Items found'''
 
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| scope="col" |'''Recorded by (signature)'''
 
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|align="center" | <...> || align="center" | <...> || <...>
 
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|align="center" | '''<...>''' || align="center" | '''<...>''' || '''TOTAL'''
 
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== Non-Scavengers with Learned Camper status (day) ==
 
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To see how {{MetaInline|Learned Camper}} impacts non-scavengers. Factors:
 
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*Basic search stats (non-[[Depleted_Zones|depleted zones]])
 
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*[[Learned Camper]] search bonus
 
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{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="1" style="width: 50%;  font-size: 90%; margin-left: 1.5em"
 
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| scope="col" width="70mm" align="center" |'''Searches'''
 
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| scope="col" width="80mm" align="center" |'''Items found'''
 
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| scope="col" |'''Recorded by (signature)'''
 
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|align="center" | 7 || align="center" | 6 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 16:17, 3 October 2011 (PDT)
 
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|align="center" | 5 || align="center" | 3 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:40, 19 November 2011 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | '''12''' || align="center" | '''9''' || '''TOTAL'''
 
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75% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:40, 19 November 2011 (PST)
 
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== Scavengers (night) ==
 
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Factors:
 
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*Basic search stats (non-[[Depleted_Zones|depleted zones]])
 
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*[[Scavenger]]s' search bonus
 
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*Night time search penalty (needs proof)
 
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{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="1" style="width: 50%;  font-size: 90%; margin-left: 1.5em"
 
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| scope="col" width="70mm" align="center" |'''Searches'''
 
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| scope="col" width="80mm" align="center"|'''Items found'''
 
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|align="center" | 14 || align="center" | 11 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:58, 17 October 2011 (PDT)
 
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|align="center" | 15 || align="center" | 14 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:58, 17 October 2011 (PDT)
 
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|align="center" | 8 || align="center" | 6 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:04, 19 October 2011 (PDT)
 
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|align="center" | 2 || align="center" | 2 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 13:51, 21 October 2011 (PDT)
 
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|align="center" | 7 || align="center" | 6 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:36, 7 December 2011 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | 7 || align="center" | 6 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 07:07, 9 December 2011 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | 14 || align="center" | 9 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 23:36, 22 December 2011 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | 21 || align="center" | 14 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 16:30, 26 December 2011 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | 8 || align="center" | 7 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:01, 28 December 2011 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | 10 || align="center" | 7 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:16, 31 December 2011 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | 30 || align="center" | 26 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 04:40, 3 February 2012 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | '''137''' || align="center" | '''108''' || '''TOTAL'''
 
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78.8% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 04:40, 3 February 2012 (PST)
 
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== Non-Scavengers (night) ==
 
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Factors:
 
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*Basic search stats (non-[[Depleted_Zones|depleted zones]])
 
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*Night time search penalty (needs proof)
 
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{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="1" style="width: 50%;  font-size: 90%; margin-left: 1.5em"
 
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| scope="col" width="70mm" align="center" |'''Searches'''
 
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| scope="col" width="80mm" align="center" |'''Items found'''
 
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|align="center" | 12 || align="center" | 6 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:38, 27 September 2011 (PDT)
 
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|align="center" | 8 || align="center" | 4 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:38, 27 September 2011 (PDT)
 
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|align="center" | 8 || align="center" | 5 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 13:07, 1 October 2011 (PDT)
 
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|align="center" | 7 || align="center" | 5 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:07, 2 October 2011 (PDT)
 
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|align="center" | 2 || align="center" | 1 || --[[User:Julia|Julia]] 17:06, 8 December 2011 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | 7 || align="center" | 4 || --[[User:Julia|Julia]] 16:11, 15 December 2011 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | 4 || align="center" | 2 || --[[User:Julia|Julia]] 13:21, 16 December 2011 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | 38 || align="center" | 24 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:33, 17 January 2012 (PST)
 
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|align="center" | '''191''' || align="center" | '''119''' || '''TOTAL'''
 
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62.3% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:33, 17 January 2012 (PST)
 
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== Scavengers with Learned Camper status (night) ==
 
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*Basic search stats (non-[[Depleted_Zones|depleted zones]])
 
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*[[Scavenger]]s' search bonus
 
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*[[Learned Camper]] search bonus
 
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*Night time search penalty (needs proof)
 
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{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="1" style="width: 50%;  font-size: 90%; margin-left: 1.5em"
 
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| scope="col" width="70mm" align="center" |'''Searches'''
 
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| scope="col" width="80mm" align="center" |'''Items found'''
 
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== Non-Scavengers with Learned Camper status (night) ==
 
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*Basic search stats (non-[[Depleted_Zones|depleted zones]])
 
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*[[Learned Camper]] search bonus
 
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*Night time search penalty (needs proof)
 
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| scope="col" width="70mm" align="center" |'''Searches'''
 
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|align="center" | 6 || align="center" | 5 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 16:17, 3 October 2011 (PDT)
 
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|align="center" | '''19''' || align="center" | '''14''' || '''TOTAL'''
 
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72.2% so far. --[[User:Julia|Julia]] 14:28, 13 December 2011 (PST)
 

Revision as of 10:23, 18 March 2012

One slight problem, theres anecdotal evidence supporting a night time search penalty to scavenging making results time dependant. Also the game engine is entirely the same as the french version the only differences are translation and whether certain items and buildings are available. And the french version DOES have night time penalties. Discordance 17:44, 27 September 2011 (PDT)

  • Thanks for the note, might worth looking into, a complication at cost of 4 more tables. I don't expect anybody to bother too much logging that, anyway. Found most of the items at night last time contrary to almost empty auto-search session during the day, so I guess I still need to notice. Any clue on exact time boundaries? Or is it determined by just lighting and colouration dimmed seen in the map window, figures? I'll keep them separated for now until it's clear about the penalty. It also makes auto-search results unreliable to account now. --KlarkMorrigan 00:29, 28 September 2011 (PDT)
    • There is a chance night time search penalties are off for us, but i'd say its more likely they are on can't say 100% either way though which makes things difficult. Its a time window as far as i know, you can offset it with lamps and torches. Discordance 05:38, 28 September 2011 (PDT)
      • Now I remember seeing flashlights and flares on Twinpedia. If season 4 doesn't officially introduce that feature in a month, it should be safe to keep recording until it's clear if we have it or not, anyway. If not, then day times can just be merged with what they have at the time. --KlarkMorrigan 06:15, 28 September 2011 (PDT)

The day spans for 12 hours (surprise surprise): 7:00-19:00. --KlarkMorrigan 14:30, 7 October 2011 (PDT)

I have moved the results to a spreadsheet with a few other projects for convenience. Would be hard to track all those on the wiki. I've merged day and night results as we don't have the night time penalty, apparently. Didn't include drunk condition yet: I can't see it being tested any time soon. --KlarkMorrigan 05:21, 3 February 2012 (PST)

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