Talk:Scavenging - Revision history

KlarkMorrigan: Rubrication and clean-up from outdated talk

2012-03-18T10:26:53Z

Rubrication and clean-up from outdated talk

KlarkMorrigan: Removing the testing tables, which aren't being used. The rates are currently being tracked on a spreadsheet.

2012-03-18T10:23:28Z

Removing the testing tables, which aren't being used. The rates are currently being tracked on a spreadsheet.

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KlarkMorrigan: Spreadsheet

2012-02-03T13:21:38Z

Spreadsheet

KlarkMorrigan: /* Search Results */ 2 more entries

2012-02-03T12:40:54Z

‎Search Results: 2 more entries

KlarkMorrigan: /* Search Results */2 more entries

2012-01-17T22:33:57Z

‎Search Results: 2 more entries

KlarkMorrigan: /* Search Results */2 more testing data entries

2011-12-31T23:16:50Z

‎Search Results: 2 more testing data entries

Julia: /* Non-Scavengers with Learned Camper status (night) */

2011-12-29T23:32:02Z

‎Non-Scavengers with Learned Camper status (night)

KlarkMorrigan: /* Search Results */2 more testing data entries.

2011-12-28T23:01:22Z

‎Search Results: 2 more testing data entries.

KlarkMorrigan: /* Search Results */2 more testing data entries.

2011-12-27T00:30:57Z

‎Search Results: 2 more testing data entries.

KlarkMorrigan: /* Search Results */2 more testing data entries.

2011-12-23T07:36:36Z

‎Search Results: 2 more testing data entries.

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−	One slight problem, theres anecdotal evidence supporting a night time search penalty to scavenging making results time dependant. Also the game engine is entirely the same as the french version the only differences are translation and whether certain items and buildings are available. And the french version DOES have night time penalties. [[User:Discordance\|Discordance]] 17:44, 27 September 2011 (PDT)	+	== Find Chance ==
−	*Thanks for the note, might worth looking into, a complication at cost of 4 more tables. I don't expect anybody to bother too much logging that, anyway. Found most of the items at night last time contrary to almost empty auto-search session during the day, so I guess I still need to notice. Any clue on exact time boundaries? Or is it determined by just lighting and colouration dimmed seen in the map window, figures? I'll keep them separated for now until it's clear about the penalty. It also makes auto-search results unreliable to account now. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan\|KlarkMorrigan]] 00:29, 28 September 2011 (PDT)
−	**There is a chance night time search penalties are off for us, but i'd say its more likely they are on can't say 100% either way though which makes things difficult. Its a time window as far as i know, you can offset it with lamps and torches. [[User:Discordance\|Discordance]] 05:38, 28 September 2011 (PDT)
−	***Now I remember seeing flashlights and flares on Twinpedia. If season 4 doesn't officially introduce that feature in a month, it should be safe to keep recording until it's clear if we have it or not, anyway. If not, then day times can just be merged with what they have at the time. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan\|KlarkMorrigan]] 06:15, 28 September 2011 (PDT)
−
−	~~The day spans for 12 hours (surprise surprise): 7:00-19:00. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan\|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:30, 7 October 2011 (PDT)~~
−
	I have moved the results to a [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?pli=1&key=0AvFS8t6RahpVdEtDcVZXQ2JGSXNCclZ4TXhwOU9oQUE&hl=en_US#gid=1 spreadsheet] with a few other projects for convenience. Would be hard to track all those on the wiki. I've merged day and night results as we don't have the night time penalty, apparently. Didn't include drunk condition yet: I can't see it being tested any time soon. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan\|KlarkMorrigan]] 05:21, 3 February 2012 (PST)		I have moved the results to a [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?pli=1&key=0AvFS8t6RahpVdEtDcVZXQ2JGSXNCclZ4TXhwOU9oQUE&hl=en_US#gid=1 spreadsheet] with a few other projects for convenience. Would be hard to track all those on the wiki. I've merged day and night results as we don't have the night time penalty, apparently. Didn't include drunk condition yet: I can't see it being tested any time soon. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan\|KlarkMorrigan]] 05:21, 3 February 2012 (PST)

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	The day spans for 12 hours (surprise surprise): 7:00-19:00. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan\|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:30, 7 October 2011 (PDT)		The day spans for 12 hours (surprise surprise): 7:00-19:00. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan\|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:30, 7 October 2011 (PDT)
		+
		+	I have moved the results to a [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?pli=1&key=0AvFS8t6RahpVdEtDcVZXQ2JGSXNCclZ4TXhwOU9oQUE&hl=en_US#gid=1 spreadsheet] with a few other projects for convenience. Would be hard to track all those on the wiki. I've merged day and night results as we don't have the night time penalty, apparently. Didn't include drunk condition yet: I can't see it being tested any time soon. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan\|KlarkMorrigan]] 05:21, 3 February 2012 (PST)

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-=Search Results=
+= Search Results =
 It was never brought up, but it shouldn't hurt to get some data and see average chances of a successful find during searching. '''Until it's clear about night time scavenging penalty, log manual searches and auto-searches spanning for the current day time at the moment of recording'''.
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 Results of searches in {{MetaInline|Depleted Zones}} can be found at the corresponding talk page. '''Log here results of searches in non-depleted/replenished zones only'''.
-==Scavengers (day)==
+== Scavengers (day) ==
 {{MetaInline|Scavenger}}s are less likely to fail a search, thus should be separated from the rest. Factors:
@@ Line 44: / Line 44: @@
 |align="center" | 19 || align="center" | 12 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:16, 31 December 2011 (PST)
 |-
-|align="center" | '''104''' || align="center" | '''79''' || '''TOTAL'''
+|align="center" | 36 || align="center" | 31 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 04:40, 3 February 2012 (PST)
 |}
-% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:16, 31 December 2011 (PST)
+.6% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 04:40, 3 February 2012 (PST)
-==Non-Scavengers (day)==
+== Non-Scavengers (day) ==
 Anybody else than scavengers are supposed to have lowest find chances, might give a clue how scavengers' bonus is good. Factors:
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 .3% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:33, 17 January 2012 (PST)
-==Scavengers with Learned Camper status (day)==
+== Scavengers with Learned Camper status (day) ==
 To see how {{MetaInline|Learned Camper}} impacts scavengers with their search bonus. Factors:
@@ Line 107: / Line 109: @@
 |}
-==Non-Scavengers with Learned Camper status (day)==
+== Non-Scavengers with Learned Camper status (day) ==
 To see how {{MetaInline|Learned Camper}} impacts non-scavengers. Factors:
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 % so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:40, 19 November 2011 (PST)
-==Scavengers (night)==
+== Scavengers (night) ==
 Factors:
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 |align="center" | 10 || align="center" | 7 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:16, 31 December 2011 (PST)
 |-
-|align="center" | '''107''' || align="center" | '''82''' || '''TOTAL'''
+|align="center" | 30 || align="center" | 26 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 04:40, 3 February 2012 (PST)
 |}
-.6% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:16, 31 December 2011 (PST)
+.8% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 04:40, 3 February 2012 (PST)
-==Non-Scavengers (night)==
+== Non-Scavengers (night) ==
 Factors:
@@ Line 219: / Line 223: @@
 .3% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:33, 17 January 2012 (PST)
-==Scavengers with Learned Camper status (night)==
+== Scavengers with Learned Camper status (night) ==
 Factors:
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 |}
-==Non-Scavengers with Learned Camper status (night)==
+== Non-Scavengers with Learned Camper status (night) ==
 Factors:

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 |align="center" | 1 || align="center" | 0 || --[[User:Julia|Julia]] 07:12, 7 December 2011 (PST)
 |-
-|align="center" | '''68''' || align="center" | '''45''' || '''TOTAL'''
+|align="center" | 30 || align="center" | 18 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:33, 17 January 2012 (PST)
 |}
-.2% so far. --[[User:Julia|Julia]] 07:12, 7 December 2011 (PST)
+.3% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:33, 17 January 2012 (PST)
 ==Scavengers with Learned Camper status (day)==
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 |align="center" | 4 || align="center" | 2 || --[[User:Julia|Julia]] 13:21, 16 December 2011 (PST)
 |-
-|align="center" | '''153''' || align="center" | '''95''' || '''TOTAL'''
+|align="center" | 38 || align="center" | 24 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:33, 17 January 2012 (PST)
 |}
-.13% so far. --[[User:Julia|Julia]] 13:21, 16 December 2011 (PST)
+.3% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:33, 17 January 2012 (PST)
 ==Scavengers with Learned Camper status (night)==

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 |align="center" | 9 || align="center" | 7 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:01, 28 December 2011 (PST)
 |-
-|align="center" | '''85''' || align="center" | '''67''' || '''TOTAL'''
+|align="center" | 19 || align="center" | 12 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:16, 31 December 2011 (PST)
 |}
-.8% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:01, 28 December 2011 (PST)
+% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:16, 31 December 2011 (PST)
 ==Non-Scavengers (day)==
@@ Line 78: / Line 80: @@
 |align="center" | 6 || align="center" | 4 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:18, 25 November 2011 (PST)
 |-
-|align="center" | 5 || align="center" | 3 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:14, 29 November 2011 (PST)
+|align="center" | 6 || align="center" | 3 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:14, 29 November 2011 (PST)
 |-
 |align="center" | 1 || align="center" | 0 || --[[User:Julia|Julia]] 07:12, 7 December 2011 (PST)
 |-
-|align="center" | '''67''' || align="center" | '''45''' || '''TOTAL'''
+|align="center" | '''68''' || align="center" | '''45''' || '''TOTAL'''
 |}
 .2% so far. --[[User:Julia|Julia]] 07:12, 7 December 2011 (PST)
@@ Line 152: / Line 154: @@
 |align="center" | 8 || align="center" | 7 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:01, 28 December 2011 (PST)
 |-
-|align="center" | '''97''' || align="center" | '''75''' || '''TOTAL'''
+|align="center" | 10 || align="center" | 7 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:16, 31 December 2011 (PST)
 |}
-.3% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:01, 28 December 2011 (PST)
+.6% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:16, 31 December 2011 (PST)
 ==Non-Scavengers (night)==
@@ Line 197: / Line 201: @@
 |align="center" | 6 || align="center" | 4 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 14:18, 25 November 2011 (PST)
 |-
-|align="center" | 6 || align="center" | 3 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:14, 29 November 2011 (PST)
+|align="center" | 10 || align="center" | 5 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:14, 29 November 2011 (PST)
 |-
 |align="center" | 6 || align="center" | 2 || --[[User:Julia|Julia]] 17:06, 6 December 2011 (PST)
@@ Line 207: / Line 211: @@
 |align="center" | 4 || align="center" | 2 || --[[User:Julia|Julia]] 13:21, 16 December 2011 (PST)
 |-
-|align="center" | '''149''' || align="center" | '''93''' || '''TOTAL'''
+|align="center" | '''153''' || align="center" | '''95''' || '''TOTAL'''
 |}
 .13% so far. --[[User:Julia|Julia]] 13:21, 16 December 2011 (PST)

@@ Line 249: / Line 249: @@
 |align="center" | 2 || align="center" | 1 || --[[User:Julia|Julia]] 14:28, 13 December 2011 (PST)
 |-
-|align="center" | '''18''' || align="center" | '''13''' || '''TOTAL'''
+|align="center" | 1 || align="center" | 1 || --[[User:Julia|Julia]] 15:32, 29 December 2011 (PST)
 |}
 .2% so far. --[[User:Julia|Julia]] 14:28, 13 December 2011 (PST)

@@ Line 40: / Line 40: @@
 |align="center" | 20 || align="center" | 14 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 16:30, 26 December 2011 (PST)
 |-
-|align="center" | '''76''' || align="center" | '''60''' || '''TOTAL'''
+|align="center" | 9 || align="center" | 7 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:01, 28 December 2011 (PST)
 |}
-.9% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 16:30, 26 December 2011 (PST)
+.8% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:01, 28 December 2011 (PST)
 ==Non-Scavengers (day)==
@@ Line 148: / Line 150: @@
 |align="center" | 21 || align="center" | 14 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 16:30, 26 December 2011 (PST)
 |-
-|align="center" | '''89''' || align="center" | '''68''' || '''TOTAL'''
+|align="center" | 8 || align="center" | 7 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:01, 28 December 2011 (PST)
 |}
-.4% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 16:30, 26 December 2011 (PST)
+.3% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 15:01, 28 December 2011 (PST)
 ==Non-Scavengers (night)==

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 |align="center" | 15 || align="center" | 13 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 23:36, 22 December 2011 (PST)
 |-
-|align="center" | '''56''' || align="center" | '''46''' || '''TOTAL'''
+|align="center" | 20 || align="center" | 14 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 16:30, 26 December 2011 (PST)
 |}
-.1% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 23:36, 22 December 2011 (PST)
+.9% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 16:30, 26 December 2011 (PST)
 ==Non-Scavengers (day)==
@@ Line 144: / Line 146: @@
 |align="center" | 14 || align="center" | 9 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 23:36, 22 December 2011 (PST)
 |-
-|align="center" | '''67''' || align="center" | '''54''' || '''TOTAL'''
+|align="center" | 21 || align="center" | 14 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 16:30, 26 December 2011 (PST)
 |}
-.6% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 23:36, 22 December 2011 (PST)
+.4% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 16:30, 26 December 2011 (PST)
 ==Non-Scavengers (night)==

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 |align="center" | 7 || align="center" | 6 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 07:07, 9 December 2011 (PST)
 |-
-|align="center" | '''41''' || align="center" | '''33''' || '''TOTAL'''
+|align="center" | 15 || align="center" | 13 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 23:36, 22 December 2011 (PST)
 |}
-.5% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 07:07, 9 December 2011 (PST)
+.1% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 23:36, 22 December 2011 (PST)
 ==Non-Scavengers (day)==
@@ Line 140: / Line 142: @@
 |align="center" | 7 || align="center" | 6 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 07:07, 9 December 2011 (PST)
 |-
-|align="center" | '''53''' || align="center" | '''45''' || '''TOTAL'''
+|align="center" | 14 || align="center" | 9 || --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 23:36, 22 December 2011 (PST)
 |}
-.9% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 07:07, 9 December 2011 (PST)
+.6% so far. --[[User:KlarkMorrigan|KlarkMorrigan]] 23:36, 22 December 2011 (PST)
 ==Non-Scavengers (night)==